Fitna and the Death of Reason

Today marks a momentous and sad day in world history. We can now be censored for nothing —if Islam feels we might do something that offends them.
For several weeks the offensive and bigoted Dutch MP Geert Wilders has been promising the world that he will be releasing a fifteen minute flick called Fitna, which, in the spirit of the Danish cartoons, will inspire the Islamic world to arise in righteous indignation. and kill a few innocent people.
There have already been riots over the film, which no one has seen, and the NATO commander in Afghanistan has expressed concern the troops will “find themselves in the line of fire because of the film.”
The Dutch government has warned Mr Wilders that his film will damage Dutch political and economic interests.
In Amsterdam, where weed and hookers are legal, a thousand people gathered on Saturday to protest the showing of the film, which no one has seen.
A Dutch court has agreed to hear a complaint lodged by Muslim groups seeking to bar Wilders from releasing the film, and punish him for earlier remarks under hate crime laws.
It was to be released today on Fitna the Movie. But Network Solutions,whose servers are located in the United States, has suspended the site, pending investigation:
Until Sunday, the site had shown the cover of a Quran on a black background, with the text: "Coming soon: Fitna".
Nevermind that Network Solutions has no problem hosting Hizbollah's' website (see whois).
Google, not surprisingly, is in on it too. A search for “fitnathemovie.com” does not produce a hit for the official site.
Ironically, Wilders is no free speech advocate. He wants the Quran banned. But just because he is a dangerous nutcase, does not mean that everyone has to cower in fear of the jihadists.
When we give in to Islam, and seek to appease it, we sabotage the most important values that define Western civilization—freedom and reason.
A couple years ago the Pope gave an academic lecture on Reason and Faith at Regensburg. And it resulted in riots, protests and a few deaths. However, it was not really about Islam per se, but Reason.
Many things can be said about the Pope. But one thing that cannot be said, is that he is not a rational person who measures his words. He is amongst the top-tier elite of Western academic philosophers. Benedict sees Reason as being under siege.
On the one hand, the post-modernists contend there is no such thing as Truth. And on the other, it is being attacked by Islam, which believes Truth is beyond all Reason. Thus we have seen the alliance of the Left and Islamic Radicalism.
The Pope believes the Western concept of Reason to be different than that found in Islam. In the West, Reason is the capacity to doubt. It started with the scholastic questioning which made Socrates so unpopular in Athens. In Benedict’s view Christianity has always been subject to this tradition of doubt and questioning, and this has strengthened revelation and faith.
Benedict observed at Regensburg that the modern concept of Reason began with Descartes, who shifted the discussion from God to the individual. Descartes’ famous dictum “I think therefore I am,” changes the subject of the scholastic question--that is the existence of God. Rather than ask “Does God exist?” Descartes asks, “How do I know I exist?” To which the simple answer is “if I don’t, then who is asking the question.”
But in Muslim theological thinking, Descartes did not get it right. They would tell him “ahh—you have thoughts, and those thoughts must come from somewhere and where could those thoughts come from but Allah.” It is not “I think therefore I am.” Rather it is “I think and therefore is Allah.”
Reason, in the Muslim clerics' view, is a sign from God, an object that God has created and planted in our brains to show us God's presence. For example, if I say that as a reasoning girl I don't believe in Allah, the answer must be, "Aha! You are using your reason to doubt the existence of Allah, and the fact that you have reason demonstrates the existence of Allah, because if you have reason, someone must have given it to you, and that only could be Allah."
The Pope has a problem with the Muslim construct. If God simply placed Reason in our brain to demonstrate His presence to us, then we have no thoughts that God does not send us. It is as though God has planted a radio in our brain, and is simply sending us signals.
And then the problem is how do we know whether it is God or Satan that is broadcasting the signals?
We only know because we can subject faith to critical thinking and analysis. And this is what happened in the Western World. Reason is the Accusing Angel in the Heavenly Court.
But, there is no such concept in Islam, and no such concept on the Left either.
In Islam there is no Accusing Angel of Reason to put the beliefs of Geert Wilders (or the assumptive claim that he and his thoughts must be exterminated apriori) to a prosecutorial test, much less Shaira law or any of the ethical and theological precepts of Muslims.
And the Left, believing there is no such thing as Truth, nor an Accusing Angel of Reason, advocates appeasement and the suppression of ideas, if it is for the common good.
But now, with Fitna, we are irrationally censoring ideas, before we even know what they really are, simply because the Religion of Peace says they are probably erroneous, and will most certainly cause us harm and discomfort.
This is really an unprecedented step.
And it is a sad day for Reason.
Update: Network Solutions is now explaining that they took down the Fitna site because they feared violence.
Religion of Peace--- Violence????
Who would a thought it.
~Becky
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UPDATE: A commenter indicated that Google was now listing the Fitna movie site. I checked it at 10:42 PDT, Monday, and it is now listed in the results--or at least what is left of it--Network Solutions still being too fearful. Of course, the intent was not to give any indication it existed when it was for real.
~Becky
Labels: appeasement, censorship, Dutch, Dutch cartoons, Fitna, freedom, Geert Wilders, Islam, leftists, Muslims. Pope, Netherlands, Reason, Regensburg, Western civilizaton
































































10 Comments:
Great post! I plan to quote it and link it. Well done!
Some of us left-wingers still believe in freedom of speech and expression, even if that speech is offensive to others. Don't blame the leftists for all this censorship: blame politics and business. "Leftists" aren't hiding Fitna, Google and Network Solutions are. I can't imagine finding a true liberal left-winger who, when asked if stuff should be removed from the web because it offends Islamics, would advocate that censorship. Politically-correct sensitivity does not equal coddling.
http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2008/03/is-wilders-movie-website-network.html
Muslims Against Sharia neither endorse nor condemn "Fitna"; we have not seen the film. However, we find it disturbing that Network Solution suspended "Fitna" website while hosting a multitude of radical Islamic websites, some of which belong to (or are closely affiliated with) terrorist groups.
I agree. The site should be up. Just to clarify, though... Google seems to bring this up just fine. Contrary to what the original blog post says, the first result for a Google search on fitnathemovie.com brings up the official site (or what's left of it now that Network Solutions put up the notice.
Logic and faith make strange bedfellows it would seem. Integration for enlightenment or enslavement?
While I can agree that it appears Western Christian spiritual philosophy is more relatively "reasoned" than radical Islam, there are many cruel insidiously sanctioned "dogmas" blindly followed by zealous believers out of thoughtless cultural tradition and personal interpretations of "holy" written rules that mortally wound people's minds, souls, and hearts.
Even in WASP and Catholic American communities today the road to hell is paved with some blind good intentions. And a few aren't even related to sexuality, which is the common complaint many believers take personal license with to messaged and customized for their own needs.
So it's a matter of degree, what's venial and what's mortal when it comes to "reason"? While that's exclusively a Catholic novelty of theological thought, it's an important question often overlooked or ignored when we excuse our behavior as "reason" to save another.
Physical and mental aggressions against another person, masked as righteous motivation out of a personal fear of failing in one's spiritual duties, maybe "the" greatest sin.
It's the nameless most egregious sin that condemns and acts in an unloving manner but is believed and expressed as "love" of ones neighbor out of goodness.
The common characteristic I view with Islam and Christianity is that they continue hierarchically preserving ancient blind harms and sufferings to a few to keep a majority of their collective flocks in "spiritual" obedience.
Many faith actions are still done out of ignorant zealousness to make one's fellow neighbor a "better" human citizen and more "holy" and "worthy" of the next life or just to selfishly preserve their own spiritual selves. Never mind that they inflict a living private hell unintentionally while in this one.
Such forced psychological martyrdoms continue to occur. Some are a mere dozen long torturing minutes while others are a final insult resulting in the victims death. And yes, this includes children.
Such spiritual motivations ruled with threats of punishment that go beyond any intrinsic healthy encouragements to stop “sinful” behavior are corrupt in and of themselves. They are unwittingly and or sacrificially inflicted to the condemned penitent in "reason" so as to rationally be self-forgiving of blissful ignorance or glorious righteousness.
I see it as a "God believing" man's greatest spiritual "free pass" scapegoat. It confers a guilt free life now and more importantly forever or so they hope and pray.
I personally choose to be measured live my faith through a lens that believes in a loving God that forgives more and punishes less than most "formal" religions or any of their twisted sub-truncations.
To the extent a person's spirituality doesn't do that I see a free will "Adam and Eve" in league with satin's sadistic hand. For even the wrath of a fallen Eden God granted redemption. I'd rather be erroneously surprised and dammed in the next life being judged for being over lovingly permissive in forgiveness than living by the undiscerning sword of an overly punishing faith.
the islamofacists, just like the leftists in this country seek to suppress any opinions that disagree or criticixe their world view.
recently some Islamic activists who work for the Federal government wanted the government to give them days off to worship Allah, a special area for prayer and apecial Islamic meal areas. The government said no. But they will probably keep trying.
The extremist groups in this country will never stop trying to perpetrate their agenda to the exclusion of the rest of us to be left alone from their facism.
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best wishes
falkie
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I will be posting on this subject later today...thanks for alerting us to it.
Behold the multitudes of crawling and cowering Dhimmis. It would be funny if there was no film after all, if it was just a stunt to get everybody talking.
All freedom starts with freedom of speech. If there is no freedom of speech, there will be no freedom. The Christians and Jews don't riot when somebody makes fun of Christ or Jews. People must learn to be civilized. Rioting MUST not be tolerated.
That'll be great if there's no rioting, how very mature that would be. Geert Wilders is a hero telling the painful truth. Definitely show it in Denmark ASAP.
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absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
let yourself be bullied
never shoot rioting thugs
let them threaten you at will
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absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
appease religious wackos
even those like Nazis
NEVER point out their faults
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http://www.fitnathemovie.com/
http://haltterrorism.com/
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botch the crab- what rock have you been hiding under?
the official site, fitnathemovie.com is not listed in google search results - there are plenty of similar results, and more than enough sites critical of Geert Wilders but his official site which is blocked by NSOL does not appear...not when we check...search Yahoo and it's one of the top results...although they have deleted the cached version...dhimmis
http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com covered the details last week
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